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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 07:51am on 2004-11-08

(Sleep schedule all scrozzled, largely due to pain waking me up before I've slept enough. Woke up in time to see the interception and touchdown that eliminated the possibility of a last-minute tie and clinched the win for the Ravens; fell back asleep; have alternated sleep and wake since.)

I wonder how often other people contemplate their own deaths. It's something I think about often enough to notice how often I think about it, but I don't know whether it's a lot compared to other people.

Sometimes I think a really flashy death -- a "people will talk about this for ten years and mention it in trivia contests for fifty more" death -- would be cool. Like attempting some sort of Evel Knievel stunt at an advanced age and dying in midair from a brain aneurysm but having done everything so perfectly up to that point that the vehicle comes down intact and it's obvious the landing didn't kill me. Or a death with just enough warning to have a "famous last words" scene with people important to me nearby, so I can make my last words some absolutely horrible pun, so bad that even those most sorrowed by my passing cannot help giggle at the thought of the moment of my passing. (And if I can't come up with something good enough in time, my fallback is, "The money's under the ...").

I really like the idea of making those who would most want to cry have to laugh at the same time. Gives me the power, even in death, y'know? I like to make people laugh. (Yeah, the toppish side of being a performer: "I get to direct what you feel when you're in my audience".) It also seems like a way to say "[Expletive] You!" to Death.

But most of the time I think I want to die suddenly, unexpectedly, and painlessly in my sleep at an advanced but still somewhat active age (I want to still be playing guitar, even if not still on stage); a large, round number like 101. Better yet, I'd like to live to be 137, simply because that way I will get to witness the entire 21st Century, but I don't think that's all that likely. But I like the idea of seeing an entire calendar-century because it has a sense of "completeness" to it and a line-up-with-history/calendars round-numberness to it. Nonetheless, I think that if I make it to 101 I shall not feel cheated. (If I die at a much more reasonable age, such as 80 or 90, I shall probably complain that I wasn't finished yet.) Because of my religious faith, I have no fear of death itself (though many ways of dying still frighten me, and I'll certainly react with appropriate fear in the moment when my life is threatened -- my survival instinct is intact), but still, I do fear not having done what I want to have done, and I want to enjoy as much of this life -- and the people in it -- as I can before I go.

Of course, having written that, it would be terribly ironic if I were to get crushed by a semi tomorrow on my way to a gig a la Harry Chapin. Let us hope that wishing in print for a long life does not tempt fate to give me a premature death instead! (If it matters, I'm not counting on growing old; I simply desire to live long enough to do so appropriately. (As opposed to feeling twenty years older than I am due to the fibromyalgia, which doesn't count.) Hmm. Now the friends most inclined to worry about me are going to wonder whether something tragic has happened every time I'm late to arrive someplace in the next few weeks. I'm going to have to make more of an effort than usual to get to things on time for a while.)

Writing this down has reminded me of a conversation at a party when I was a teenager. A handful of us were talking about methods of suicide, and someone asked what way we thought was coolest. Some picked painless (freezing to death), others dramatic (40 story building, 38 story rope). I don't remember whether it was I or someone else who got the last word by saying, "Entropy. I'd choose to commit suicide by entropy. When the Universe dies of heat-death, it'll take me with it." I think that was me, but I'm not sure.

I'm not scared of what happens after I die, but I'm as concerned as anyone else about dying before I'm ready to. And I'm so disorganized, I'll probably never be ready. I can see myself at 95, telling doctors, "No, no, you have to keep me alive long enough to finish writing this symphony and then I have to organize the recipes I wanted to pass down to my grand-nephews, dammit!" *sigh*

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posted by [identity profile] gelfjenn.livejournal.com at 05:04am on 2004-11-08
You, my dear, are so very warped. Entropy indeed!*smirk*
And I don't think your thoughts on your own death are all that uncommon. I think the more uncommon part of it all is your willingness and frankness to takl about it. But not in the sad attention claiming, oh i might do something stupid, way. Just the analytical way of looking at yer own noggin.:)
Forthe record I think I have reflected upon what my death could be like and what I'd like it to be many many times.And worried many many people in the process.*shrug* but hey Im still here:-P
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 05:16am on 2004-11-08
That's the thing about stuff people don't talk about: not knowing what goes on in other people's heads. It's not that I thought I think about death a lot more than other people; it's that I had no way of knowing how often other people do.

But yeah, being willing to talk about death (randomly, not at a funeral or in a doctor's office or to get attention) is kind of unusual in our culture. And I myself feel I have to hold back a little most of the time lest I either make other people uncomfortable because of the topic itself or cause them to worry that I'm "in a dark place".

Part of this is looking at my own noggin. Part of it is thinking of my life as a story and wondering how I would write the ending if I were in complete control of that.
 
posted by [identity profile] gelfjenn.livejournal.com at 05:27am on 2004-11-08
Yeah I find I also need to curb myself some times. Takling abotu death and such. It's all a matetr of which group I'm with. Some people will talk with me for hours and hours about it. To the point wheer we've ended ourselves in comic book fashion almost. It can get quite entertaining I must say:)

So I completely understand looking at it as if you're writting the story of your life.:)
 
posted by [identity profile] buubala.livejournal.com at 05:15am on 2004-11-08
I have danced with death and seen death quite a few times. I am not scared by it. In fact in many ways I embrace it. I have been told for the last 3 years on and off that I was either dying or gonna die due to illness. I think when I do die it will be for something entirely different. One of my close friends seems to think I will live long enough to dance on everyone else's grave. When I do die for whatever reason, I want my friends to have an irish wake and a roman orgy. That being said, I had a friend who had been diagnosed with HIV. He died of a snakebite. One can never be sure.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 06:28am on 2004-11-08
*nod* Indeed, one can never be sure, which makes my morbid musings a sort of pointless mental masturbation. But the thoughts are there, meaningful or not.

OTOH, if I get around to trying to write some of the stories in my head, I can use some of these thoughts for how my characters die, I guess.
 
posted by [identity profile] blumindy.livejournal.com at 05:28am on 2004-11-08
The problem with people like you is that when one gives them a spanking, they enjoy it. Hrumph -- Evel Knievel??? I'm thinking, based upon your previous comments (see entries on the learning to read poll) that your flist members would say "Evel Knievel? Man, is he ever stupid!" You cannot possibly want to evoke that response nor emulate that sort of behavior (can you??)
You had flashes of this when you were a teen and not just on the topic of death. Even with the swiss-cheese style memory I have now, I can remember clearly and vividly several of those episodes. 'sigh'

Make us laugh while you are alive so that we can share it with you.
"Put no flowers on my grave; shed no tears on that spot -- I'm not there."
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 06:24am on 2004-11-08
Admittedly, the death-during-but-unrelated-to-a-stunt thought is mostly from when I was much younger that thought Evel Knievel was kind of cool despite the "yeah, but why?" aspect. But there's still the thumbing-my-nose-at-the-odds bit that appeals to me in the idea of doing something stupid and dangerous as my final act and having that not be what kills me.

What do you mean by "flashes of this"? Speaking thoughts most folks don't speak, or something else?

And don't worry, the after-laughter is supposed to be in addition to, not instead of, making people laugh while I'm still here. ;-)
 
posted by [identity profile] blumindy.livejournal.com at 10:00am on 2004-11-08
The flashes were of....conversations we had and things I could see/feel in you. Those were even harder to quantify back then than they are now....'sigh' [I am running through spoons as if I have an infinite supply which I do NOT....]

I suppose you are right in thinking that you/we talk of things most people don't. I forget that.

BTW, I just came out of a managers' meeting in which it was determined that we need to hire a transgendered programmer (I think the disability will substitute in for you not being African-American :) Yes, I surround myself with weirdness by choice, don't I? I keep my diversity hidden as well as I possibly can (as in the only person here who knows I'm Jewish is the other Jew. Go figure.)
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posted by [personal profile] cellio at 07:32am on 2004-11-08
I like the entropy comment.

I'd like to have a long, healthy life. There's never actually enough time to do everything, of course, but I'd sure like to try. I don't fear death, though I do fear deterioriation. I'd rather die prematurely than have my brain and/or body turn to mush. But I hope it's not either-or. :-)
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posted by [personal profile] zenlizard at 07:59am on 2004-11-08
I want my death to be severely ironic. Whatever, however, whenever, I don't care much, as long as it's ironic.
 
posted by [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com at 05:02pm on 2004-11-08
I want to be late to my own funeral, and I mean late as in tardy, not as in "the late Interrobang." Unlike those of you with cozy religious beliefs, I haven't any, and I'm quite dreading what I expect to be the terminus of my personality. It must be nice to be quite sure that death is just a transition from one phase of existence to another, but I have no sense of anything spiritual, religious, or similar at all, so I'm sort of stuck with horsehair-stuffed Empiricism. *sigh*

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