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"We cannot accomodate with plan[sic] text"? It's the simple version. It's standard. What are they, a garage operation using webmail to handle customer service? Maybe I shouldn't trust them to reliably provide my dial tone after all. Sodding amateurs.

I complained about part of their web site being broken. They responded with a mostly-canned message full of weaselwords and marketing speak, in a [expletive]ing PITA to read format. At the start of my reply to their response, where I called them out on the weaseling (for one thing, don't say you did things a certain way "to provide an enhanced experience" if there's NO EVIDENCE THAT IT ENHANCES ANYTHING -- if you don't give me a reason to believe that the thing that breaks in my browers is actually an enhancement, I'm going to hear that as placebo buzzwords and be offended), I requested that further email be sent in plaintext.

Apparently they're so newfangled that they can't send plaintext, but not so newfangled that they have a spellchecker. Or perhaps what they write is just as hard to read on their own screen as it is on mine?

<HTML>Dear Memer,<BR><BR>Thank you for your recent e-mail regarding The Talk Ame
ricaá Local and Long Distance Service.<BR><BR>If you have difficulty with our e-
mail or are unable to use an alternate MUA, we recommend that you correspond via
 telephone or U.S. mail as we cannot accomodate with plan text.<BR><BR>If you ha
ve any additional questions, please visit us online at www.talk.com. You can als
o call us toll  free at 1-877-536-7968.<BR><BR>Our hours are:<BR> <BR>Weekdays:<
BR>Eastern      7 A.M. - 6 P.M.<BR>Central      6 A.M. - 6 P.M.<BR>Mountain
5 A.M. - 6 P.M.<BR>Pacific      4 A.M. - 5 P.M. <BR> <BR>Saturday:<BR>8 A.M. - 5
 P.M. Eastern Standard Time <BR> <BR>Sunday:<BR>Closed<BR> <BR>Talk America, We
Put Customers First.<BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR><BR>Talk America<BR>Customer Care<BR><
BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 21:30:00 -0500 (EST)<BR>From: "D. Glenn
 Arthur Jr." <dglenn@radix.net><BR>To: cs@talk.com<BR><BR>Please send me mail in
 plaintext, as is the standard for email<BR>acc!
 ording to the relevant RFCs, not in poorly formatted HTML.<BR><BR>At the very l
east, please insert actual carriage returns into<BR>the code after the BR tags t
o make it easier for someone using<BR>a plaintext MUA to read.  (Yes, I am aware

[...]

I'm not getting warm fuzzies here. I'm having serious second thoughts about having switched my dial tone to TalkAmerica. Unless I get clues that they know their asses from their elbows, I'm certainly not going to suggest that anybody else use them.

(They also gave me a "tell the customer what he wants to hear" answer instead of the truth (which was probably "we don't know") when I was first signing up, when I asked whether their "turbo Internet" access worked with Linux. Once the CD arrived and I saw that it had only Windows files on it, I called and asked, and they explained that no, there was no Linux version, but that Linux is "so much faster" than Windows that I should see the same speedup anyhow. (Okay, Linux is faster than Windows ... I'll buy that, especially since I'm not running an X server on most of my Linux machines -- and certainly not on the box with the modem attached. But 500% faster at serial I/O than a Windows box? Windows really can't keep a 56K modem busy?) Uh, riiight ... But if I'm already using Linux to connect to a different provider and the speedup I'll see is because I'm using Linux, won't I see the same speed that I already get with my old provider? Fortunately I wasn't expecting actual results from that "feature" but took the freebie as an experiment.)

They've earned a public mocking. Plaintext is easy, and they're a $%*#ing telecommunications company. They can write RFC-compliant email if they want a shred of cred with a techie. I don't like being lied to (even in a "say yes instead of 'I don't know'" manner), and I really don't like being told to "just get a different MUA" because somebody else can't be bothered to send plaintext. There are reasons I use the mail client I use.

(And yes, I'm aware the HTML could have been worse -- it could have been that abominable Microsoft cruft with a separate <DIV> tag for each line and gratuitous font-change commands that wind up not doing anything. Small favours and all that...)

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posted by [identity profile] scruffycritter.livejournal.com at 10:07pm on 2004-11-09
Considered posting this to [livejournal.com profile] mock_the_stupid?
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 02:14am on 2004-11-10
Hadn't thought about it until you mentioned it, so I went and checked out that community. Do you really think it's funny enough? 'Cause I'd love for it to have a wider audience, but the community profile says not to post things that are more whining about stupidity than mocking it...

Contemplating appropriate rewrites, but still uncertain.
 
posted by [identity profile] scruffycritter.livejournal.com at 02:19am on 2004-11-10
I think the inability to send a plain-text email utterly speaks for itself.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 02:25am on 2004-11-10
Point taken. What it lacks in funny it makes up for in boggle-factor. Either the operator is brain-dead or whoever designed their CRM system is incompetent.
 
posted by [identity profile] ladykathryn.livejournal.com at 02:38am on 2004-11-10
[community profile] bad_service

I dunno, I don't think I'd trust a company whose form letters weren't even spell-checked. Ugh.
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posted by [personal profile] madfilkentist at 07:34am on 2004-11-12
Not being able to accomodate with plan text is bad enough; not being able to accomodate with plan English is even worse. I wonder what country they outsourced their support to.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 10:46am on 2004-11-13
Their call center is in Florida. Dunno whether they outsourced the "answering customer email" part. But honestly, I'd expect better English than that from a non-native-speaker working in customer support. Or at least mistakes that look more like typical non-native-speaker mistakes.
 
Well, lessee. We'll assume a brand-new Dell computer (the kind you see advertised
on TV for $369). It only runs Windows 98. And we'll make the modem a Winmodem
(CPU does all the DSP). Tip in a really inefficient, top-heavy web browser (IE, since
it comes with W98). And a stripped-down frame-buffer style graphics card (hey,
you don't get a $400 GeForce card in a $369 computer). Slow dynamic RAM, with
CPU refresh. 50MHz frontside bus. 13 clocks/instruction, average. A very register-
poor CPU. You know, it's quite possible that a brand-new Dell computer would, in
fact, be unable to max out a 56K modem.
 
%wince% Ouch. Y'know, I forgot about Winmodems for a moment there. Yech.

I wonder what their "turbo Internet" software actually does, and whether it has any effect if there's a real modem instead of a Winmodem.
 
Actually, I'm guessing their software does some combination of a) skipping
part of the IP stack, b) caching, and c) compression. There could also be
static content (known ads, backgrounds, scripts, etc.) that is accessed
locally instead of fetched over the modem, and perhaps some sort of
filtering. Also, there could be some user experience management going
on, where it loads the stuff you can see, and gets the rest of it while
you're reading the first part (something real browsers have been doing
for a long time).
 
There could also be static content (known ads, backgrounds, scripts, etc.) that is accessed locally instead of fetched over the modem
I guess those would be the same ads I don't retrieve at all, thanks to an ad- (and pop-up)-blocking proxy (privoxy, but there's others). That really sped up my dial-up surfing.

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