I'm trying to figure out how D'G fits into this structure. She was a guy when we hung out together....not one now (?) and I was always 'one-of-the-guys' despite organs to the contrary.
All my life I've had many guy-friends and few women-friends. I'm not terribly girly...can't talk about hairstyles for minutes, let alone hours on end. One of the few things I have in common with large groups of women: having been pregnant, had children, and being a mom now. Otherwise, people are people to me, not a chromosomal pair.
I find it interesting to see the comments connecting homosocial and "stereotypically girly", which is not a connection I'd really thought about until today. I wonder how/whether that ties in with siderea's comment below about INTJ women, and the relationship between IQ and androgynous behaviour.
I think that the "stereotypically girly" comments come only from those who don't have a lot of experience with homosocial groups. I think that cchan8's comments about boundaries are more apt. I've talked to a number of women about what 'the girls' talk about and it tends to be: guys, interests (which depend on the people, and frequently aren't "girly"), work. When out with 'the boys' typical topics are: girls, interests, work. So seems the same to me.
BTW, thank you very much for the article. It is a fantastic write-up. You have masterfully summarized most of the possible sides while leaving the more in-depth analysis in the hands of your readers.
In a way, it has come at a very convenient time. Much like The Jargon File, this has served to inform me that I am not a lone warrior battling against the masses of insanity, but that I do have comrades in arms and stuff.
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Guess I'm in the misfit group -- AGAIN!
I'm trying to figure out how D'G fits into this structure. She was a guy when we hung out together....not one now (?) and I was always 'one-of-the-guys' despite organs to the contrary.
All my life I've had many guy-friends and few women-friends. I'm not terribly girly...can't talk about hairstyles for minutes, let alone hours on end. One of the few things I have in common with large groups of women: having been pregnant, had children, and being a mom now. Otherwise, people are people to me, not a chromosomal pair.
Re: Guess I'm in the misfit group -- AGAIN!
Re: Guess I'm in the misfit group -- AGAIN!
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In a way, it has come at a very convenient time. Much like The Jargon File, this has served to inform me that I am not a lone warrior battling against the masses of insanity, but that I do have comrades in arms and stuff.
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And remember: Ugol's Law provides hope; search engines make it easier do something useful with the answer Ugol's Law supplies. :-)
(Ugol's Law: If you ever find yourself asking a question that starts, "Is there anybody else who...", the answer is "Yes.")