Have you heard of the statement "respect must be earned" Respect means more then tolerance. That is were we are disconnecting. Respect means on some level you admire something. That is the danger of the word respect.
You are right though that this part of the thread is a tangent. I has nothing to do with the video or goverment pushing morals (or not) in the schools. It also has nothing to do with school violance. But I think is is worth the talking about.
Respect means on some level you admire something. That is the danger of the word respect.
This is a usage/grammar/definition issue you appear to be caught up with then.
It didn't say "pledge to respect...". It said to "pledge to have respect for..."
Ex: Tony Soprano isn't someone I'd respect, but he's certainly someone I'd have respect for.
Having Respect is a matter of staying quiet while someone gets eulogized.
We're talking about respecting people...as people and nothing more. Not as ones we like necessarily.
And you even switched usages of the word. Lets put specifics into that pledge
"I pledge to respect all Jews".
Well, no. I don't do that. I respect their choice of religion, and respect them as I would anyone else, but some Jews are SOB's just like some Christians are SOB's. I dont think you'd expect me to behave differently. Right?
Same holds true for sexual identity. People are people. Respect them as you would any one else. Sexual Identity isn't a reason to respect one any less.
Likewise, it would be insane for anyone to expect one to expect all people of a different sexual identity.
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You are right though that this part of the thread is a tangent. I has nothing to do with the video or goverment pushing morals (or not) in the schools. It also has nothing to do with school violance. But I think is is worth the talking about.
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This is a usage/grammar/definition issue you appear to be caught up with then.
It didn't say "pledge to respect...". It said to "pledge to have respect for..."
Ex: Tony Soprano isn't someone I'd respect, but he's certainly someone I'd have respect for.
Having Respect is a matter of staying quiet while someone gets eulogized.
We're talking about respecting people...as people and nothing more. Not as ones we like necessarily.
And you even switched usages of the word. Lets put specifics into that pledge
"I pledge to respect all Jews".
Well, no. I don't do that. I respect their choice of religion, and respect them as I would anyone else, but some Jews are SOB's just like some Christians are SOB's. I dont think you'd expect me to behave differently. Right?
Same holds true for sexual identity. People are people. Respect them as you would any one else. Sexual Identity isn't a reason to respect one any less.
Likewise, it would be insane for anyone to expect one to expect all people of a different sexual identity.
So why are you thinking that's the case now?
Re: So much for Swiss
Likewise, it would be insane for anyone to expect one to respect all people of a different sexual identity