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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:26am on 2008-07-07

"There is this notion that you have to be careful that you're not taking a side, and I understand that that's important to journalism, but at the same time, I honestly believe that if we just take two sides and devote equal space to each, that we are lying. It's is our job to inform readers. They need to come away with more information, not be more confused. Journalism is in disarray today.

"I think that's of course what happened with the Iraq War, and I think that's what's happening with so many issues.

"If someone were to go back and take a look at my first couple of stories, they'd probably see that they were pretty even. But that's because I hadn't done enough homework, and by 'doing homework,' I mean gathering information from both sides and sifting through and weighing the evidence. This 'fair and balanced' approach makes us like a sponge: We're supposed to just soak up the information and then wring it back out. But then we haven't accumulated any knowledge. That's crazy: It's denying everything I've learned. That night, my editor Randy tried to get me to change the lead because he thought we were piling too much on intelligent design. I was really scared because I thought he would take me off the story if I didn't agree, and there I was, three-quarters of the way through the trial ... but I also knew I couldn't lie, and that's what it would have amounted to."

-- Lauri Lebo, author of Devil in Dover, interviewed by Onnesha Roychoudhuri for AlterNet, 2008-06-20 [ thanks to [info] sunfell for pointing out the interview]

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posted by [identity profile] smallship1.livejournal.com at 10:25am on 2008-07-07
It's very easy to be "fair and balanced" on an issue you don't care about. I'm not that bothered about what people believe about the origin of the universe, earth and man--the facts are there in libraries and museums if you want or need to look for them, and in the meantime believe what makes you happy--so I annoy those who are bothered about it. On the other hand, there are issues on which I passionately believe there's a right side and a wrong side, and people who try to be "fair and balanced" on those issues make me crazy.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 07:56pm on 2008-07-07
"It's very easy to be 'fair and balanced' on an issue you don't care about."

Fair enough. But is that a luxury that a news reporter (or editor) has?
 
posted by [identity profile] smallship1.livejournal.com at 10:02pm on 2008-07-07
You mean not caring about the rights and wrongs of an issue? Good question.

It could be argued that reporting the news demands a lack of bias, and that therefore, even if reporters and editors care about an issue, they must pretend they don't. To come out and say that, say, bouncing cricket balls off the sides of pigs is immoral and disgusting...well, that's bound to annoy that section of the readership that likes nothing better than to wander down to the sty and go all Steve McQueen on the nearest Gloucestershire Old Spot, so for reasons of sheer economy the editor may be required to make sure the pig-bouncers' side is duly represented. Whether it's immoral or not.

I personally would be happier if they cared more and were allowed to say so. Let both sides be represented, not pallidly by one writer who doesn't (or can't afford to) care one way or another, but by the most passionate advocates of either side. Let newspapers become hotbeds of debate, with each side's argument laid out in full for everyone to study. Above all, let everyone who writes in a newspaper tell the truth as they see it.

But that's hardly likely to happen, is it?
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 12:36am on 2008-07-08
Let's step away from the "rights and wrongs" language for a bit (we can come back to it later if either of us stays interested long enough) because that makes it a little too easy to get sidetracked into moral issues, and from there into realms that are entirely appropriate to treat as opinion.

Let us instead focus on "correct and incorrect", "true and false", "verifiable and bullshit", and maybe even "credible and suspect".

Let me also rephrase my earlier question thus: Can the rest of us afford to grant reporters and editors the luxury of not caring enough to judge an issue, if we're expecting them to inform us?

"It's is our job to inform readers. They need to come away with more information, not be more confused."


If we're talking about whether aritifical Christmas trees demean established traditions, then by all means let both sides be represented; let reporters who have an opinion and wish to express it identify their allegiance, and let the others report it in a don't-care, "some say this and some say that" manner.

Similarly, if the debate is about whether the emphasis in our approach to criminal justice should be on punishment or rehabilitation, about what our goals will be as a society, there's room for opinion; when one side claims that a particular rehabilitation program does or does not produce intended results, and the results of the program are accurately documented, lies or errors about those results should not go uncontested and un-noted by reporters. As somebody famous said, "you're entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts".

When we're talking about cases where one party is lying, and that can be known, I don't think it's responsible journalism to repeat the lies on an equal footing with the truth. Similarly where one side is simply mistaken about a verifiable matter of fact -- report the claim, if you must, but indicate that it's erroneous and how you know that. For example, if the pig-bouncers assert that no pigs are ever harmed by ther sport, and a respectable journal of vetrinary medicine reports between 100 and 150 pigs per year requiring treatent for pig-bouncing related injuries, that needs to be noted next to the pig-bouncer's claim of harmlessness. Then the question of whether that's a large enough number to be concerned about compared to other causes of injuries to pigs or compared to the number of pigs involved in the sport, or whether we should even care about the welfare of non-human animals ... those can be debated as opinion and as morality, but call the bogon a bogon.

(Note that the court cases about ID have not decided the question of whether God exists; they have been about whether ID is science or not, whether it's religion or not, and whether ID proponents have been honest about it. A reporter can quite reasonably mention the disagreement between theists and atheists regarding His existence as a "some say and others disagree" affair -- even, perhaps, "controversy", if it rises to that level -- but when IDists claim they have no religious agenda and documentary evidence shows otherwise, or when IDists claim ID is science but can't show how it meets any level of scientific rigor or even asks the right kinds of questions to be science, reporting both sides as being equally credible just makes reporters accomplices in IDists' campaign to manufacture a controversy.)

When it comes to "generally accepted" versus "smells funny", where the correctness of each side cannot be known yet with certainty, one has to be more careful. But that still doesn't mean treating the two as equivalent.

As [livejournal.com profile] herveus said below, "When one 'side' is an intellectual scam, 'fair and balanced' reporting should not overlook the scam."

Let the editorial pages be hotbeds of debate (please! -- with well laid-out arguments as you suggest) but not the news-reporting sections. And let the debate be fairly contested, with differences of opinion about what we should do in response to facts, but no making up more convenient 'facts' to replace correct ones.
 
posted by [identity profile] herveus.livejournal.com at 11:25am on 2008-07-07
There are times when giving equal weight to both sides of a topic (in the guise of "fair and balanced") really gives undue weight to one "side". When one "side" is an intellectual scam, "fair and balanced" reporting should not overlook the scam. It should shine the cold light of reason on it, the better to make us point and laugh. Attempts to wedge non-science into science curricula provide much to point and laugh at, in this context.

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posted by [personal profile] cellio at 01:00pm on 2008-07-07
Yes. Not all "sides" are created equal, and reporters do harm when they pretend otherwise.
 
posted by [identity profile] jim-p.livejournal.com at 03:28pm on 2008-07-07
Then there's the false dichotomy; assuming that there's only two sides to an issue. This really annoys me when I see it in journalism; the reporter gets, say, the Democratic view and then the Republican view, then ships the story and pats themselves on the back for having covered "all" sides of the iseue...
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 08:03pm on 2008-07-07
The human tendency to create dichotomies for classifying things, whether n=2 is appropriate or not (and worse, to then try to inappropriately map every other dichotomy onto the one they're thinking of at the moment), has perplexed and frustrated me for decades.
 
posted by [identity profile] flaviarassen.livejournal.com at 03:53am on 2008-07-08
Just to show you how many divergent interests your friends
have, the whole time I'm reading this, I'm thinking of how
the Middle East is reported...

(Feel free to delete my post if the bulk of your friends
have diverging views from mine & you think a fight will
ensue....)
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posted by [personal profile] jducoeur at 06:46pm on 2008-07-14
There is this notion that you have to be careful that you're not taking a side, and I understand that that's important to journalism, but at the same time, I honestly believe that if we just take two sides and devote equal space to each, that we are lying.

God, yes. As I often point out, the reason why my favorite newsmagazine is The Economist isn't because of its international viewpoint, nor its particular slant (although I am fond of both). It's that it doesn't *pretend* that it lacks a slant: it has specific biases, and while they try to be reasonably complete and fair, they make no attempt to hide their editorial viewpoint. That both informs me better, and lets me take that slant into account when making up my own mind. The result is a much more complete and sensible picture than the supposedly "unbiased" US media...

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