No what Bill is going on about is people who beleave in the spiritual.
As for the hate monger thing... if I were to say the same things about Jews would you call be justifed? Would you cansider me as "having a point"?
I happen to agree that Atheism is a religion, Nazism was a fanatic world view.. ie race wars. For a group to be a religion they need to have answer for 3 questions... 1) What started all this 2) What is my purpose here 3) What happen when I die. Any group that answers these three questions I would say was a religion. The Nazi's did answer 1 or 3.
No what Bill is going on about is people who beleave in the spiritual.
Where did you get that?
Even in your quotes he goes after religion itself and not the people.
Re: Nazi's being a religion.
For the people like Bill, the Nazi's are a religion. Certainly, when I think of the crimes done in the name of religion, I count the holocaust. The Nazi's thought they were right to kill members of a religion. They thought they were on the right side of the religious teachings. It's religious fervor. It doesn't have to rise to the level of fanaticism to make you disregard your own senses.
I would not. Unless you sight Nazi's as following secularism, which there is much proof for. In which case the religion isn't Nazi but Secularism.
Now according to you I could say democrats are brain washes, mental flawed, and are destorying our society, and I would not be guilty of hatered toward democrats I would only be making a point. Is that right?
How can a hatred of one particular religion be secular? Wouldnt you need a religious bias to have that? How would it work otherwise?
And yes, you could say that without hating someone. I might think you'd be misguided and wrong and thickheaded, but not guilty of hatred, and neither would I be for saying that opinion.
I think he's mad about how religion gets used by some people. Religion requires faith. I don't think he has a problem with that until that faith is used to justify whatever the guy at the pulpit thinks should be justified (excuse me...how he interprets the scriptures).
Look at the 9/11 hijackers. They killed over 3000 people thinking the Almighty approved of it, so they'd go to heaven for doing so. I think Bill feels hostility towards anyone who uses religion like that. I think he also has a problem with trying to teach religion to someone who isn't capable of making decisions for him/herself.
I do not believe he feels hostility towards people who don't do that, but I think he feels the people who do have become endemic.
"I do not believe he feels hostility towards people who don't do that, but I think he feels the people who do have become endemic."
Well on that I guess we are both making subjective judgements because only he could answer that and even in his own answer it would be subjective. I feel he is hateful towards religion and that he promotes hateful ideas against religion. You don't and that fine. But I personnal would not consider him a good athority on decide is someone is hateful or not. Since I feel he is fully emersed in it himself.
Well, it is nice to know he considers us mental damaged, the root of the destruction of our country, and insane... I happy to know he has no ill will towards us.
How can a hatred of one particular religion be secular?
When it come to the Nazi's they hated Jew... but they also hated Gypsys, Gays, Blacks, etc. To think that the Jews were the ONLY target of there groups is foolish.
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As for the hate monger thing... if I were to say the same things about Jews would you call be justifed? Would you cansider me as "having a point"?
I happen to agree that Atheism is a religion, Nazism was a fanatic world view.. ie race wars. For a group to be a religion they need to have answer for 3 questions... 1) What started all this 2) What is my purpose here 3) What happen when I die. Any group that answers these three questions I would say was a religion. The Nazi's did answer 1 or 3.
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Where did you get that?
Even in your quotes he goes after religion itself and not the people.
Re: Nazi's being a religion.
For the people like Bill, the Nazi's are a religion. Certainly, when I think of the crimes done in the name of religion, I count the holocaust. The Nazi's thought they were right to kill members of a religion. They thought they were on the right side of the religious teachings. It's religious fervor. It doesn't have to rise to the level of fanaticism to make you disregard your own senses.
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Now according to you I could say democrats are brain washes, mental flawed, and are destorying our society, and I would not be guilty of hatered toward democrats I would only be making a point. Is that right?
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And yes, you could say that without hating someone. I might think you'd be misguided and wrong and thickheaded, but not guilty of hatred, and neither would I be for saying that opinion.
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I think he's mad about how religion gets used by some people. Religion requires faith. I don't think he has a problem with that until that faith is used to justify whatever the guy at the pulpit thinks should be justified (excuse me...how he interprets the scriptures).
Look at the 9/11 hijackers. They killed over 3000 people thinking the Almighty approved of it, so they'd go to heaven for doing so. I think Bill feels hostility towards anyone who uses religion like that. I think he also has a problem with trying to teach religion to someone who isn't capable of making decisions for him/herself.
I do not believe he feels hostility towards people who don't do that, but I think he feels the people who do have become endemic.
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Well on that I guess we are both making subjective judgements because only he could answer that and even in his own answer it would be subjective. I feel he is hateful towards religion and that he promotes hateful ideas against religion. You don't and that fine. But I personnal would not consider him a good athority on decide is someone is hateful or not. Since I feel he is fully emersed in it himself.
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When it come to the Nazi's they hated Jew... but they also hated Gypsys, Gays, Blacks, etc. To think that the Jews were the ONLY target of there groups is foolish.