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posted by [personal profile] eftychia at 05:25am on 2005-06-03 under

"Our study shows that the majority (67%) of couples have a precipitous drop in relationship happiness in the first 3 years of their first baby's life. That's tragic in terms of the climate of inter-parental hostility and depression that the baby grows up in. That affective climate between parents is the real cradle that holds the baby. And for the majority of families that cradle is unsafe for babies. There are some hopeful signs that interventions will be effective at changing all that." -- John Gottman

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posted by [identity profile] katrinb.livejournal.com at 01:35pm on 2005-06-03
Meep.
Maybe taking a look at his workshop might be a good idea for Jason and I, then.
Although I don't think Jason's going to be too terribly reluctant to get involved in child care. I've seen him around his nephew.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 05:16pm on 2005-06-16
Note [livejournal.com profile] old_hedwig's comment below.
 
posted by [identity profile] old-hedwig.livejournal.com at 02:23pm on 2005-06-03
Keep in mind this is their research to support their product. My very unscientific observation based on my family and other "folks I know" does not support this at all.
 
posted by [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com at 05:16pm on 2005-06-16
Well, with a rate of 67%, it's entirely possible that you've got an atypical sample and would have seen the effect with a larger sample (and one that cuts more broadly across communities and subcultures). OTOH, they could be fearmongering to support their product. Until someone independently replicates their results, the proverbisl grain of salt is definitely advised.
 
posted by [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com at 08:49pm on 2005-06-03
I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually true. From what I can remember of my sister's being an infant (and I was nearly ten at the time), it was a huge stressor. Nobody was getting enough sleep, a lot of things were pushed by the wayside due to the baby's taking up more time than one would think possible, and I can well imagine my mother going through a postpartum period where sex was simply unthinkable (as I've heard often happens), given that she was in labour for 24h and came out the other end nearly dead and with only a squashed little alien pain in the ass to show for it.

Then again, I'm also one of these people who can't understand why anyone would willingly go through the process of having a child, because it seems to me that the inconveniences far outweigh the rewards, and the only evidence to the contrary appears to me to be cultural conditioning and nothing more.

I mean, think about it. First you get to carry around this parasite in your body for nine months, which causes catastrophic and oftentimes irreversible physiological effects, then when your body finally ejects the parasite, you run a significant risk of dying in the process...and then, after all that, your reward is that you get to spend vast amounts of time and money caring for it for basically the rest of your life. I must confess to just not seeing the upside, especially considering that I don't like children, at all. I understand that people do, I just haven't come across any reason convincing enough to me to explain it. (I also figure that a lot of people have kids because it's the expected thing to do.)

So I can entirely see how a process like that could entirely wreck someone's relationship. All life changes run that risk, and I can't think of any more radically life-altering change than having a baby.
 
posted by [identity profile] liritsvoice.livejournal.com at 07:20pm on 2005-06-05
i totally relate to what youre saying... its a lot of pain to go thru, and its just *expected* that all women will inherently want to do this. parenting is one of the hardest jobs, yet goes entirely unpaid and unappreciated. bleh.

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